Fallen Ones, The
Minggu, Maret 14th, 2010|
IMDB rating: 3.50 Plot: The Fallen Ones, an ancient cult in Egypt that worshiped giants. One such giant was Aramis, who’s father is a fallen Fallen Angel who had Armamis mummified to save his spirit from the great flood. Time passes and it’s 2005 and a team of Archaeologists have found the tomb lead by clues in ancient text. But one of them is not who they appear to be, he is the Fallen One and has plans on resurrecting Aramis and start a new race of giants and destroy all of humankind. Unless Matt and his team can find a way to take down a hundred foot mummy. |
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Dog aggression - Jezebel/Pit something Mix (New rescue) and Eddie Pit Bull Boxer Mix.?
Because of the length of the description of these dogs and the considerable ‘advanced’ issue this is, I have included a full and very long story with these dogs, but for those who don’t want to read my long version I have put the shorter versions of each dogs problem with minimal background but important facts about each dog.
Please help me if you have good knowledge on this subject. These dogs are going to have to get along, so we can use all the extra knowledge in the world to get everyone happy!
THANK YOU
Help for Jezebel???
Anxiety. I realize she has been taken from everything she has ever known but she is now in a home she will live in forever. But she is also very stressed out. I have been up for a couple hours now trying to ‘desensitize’ her to the household sounds. Washing dishes, louder noises positively spook her. Shes had a LOT of water and more then enough food. Made several trips outside and doesn’t need to use the bathroom. Because of her high anxiety level right now her and Eddie can not even be around each other. Her constant panting has him worked up already but he does relax and even ignore her while sitting in the same room with her for short periods.
Eddie- Aggression
At first when they met outside Eddie challenged her, and although she had been submissive to us, Jezebel did not exactly posture to him or react aggressively but she did also have some fear of his challenging her so obnoxiously. Her tail was not tucked nor up but about mid way up. He did after about 20 seconds together, both leashed, me holding Jezebel and him holding Eddie. Eddie weighs about 60 pounds and he is pure muscle so there is no just letting him near her until we can curb all signs of aggression in him towards her. She is extremely underweight at I’d guess about 35 pounds and anxious which doesn’t help Eddie to show his best side. Eddie, with just my husband and I has an extremely good overall energy. He knows a lot of discipline and is total genius and love dog and listens 100% of the time at any other time. But he doesn’t have the ability to NOT challenge right off. Remember that Eddie does NOT show aggression towards other dogs when they are outside, running free and my husband and I aren’t around. So we realize that even with all the knowledge we have about breaking them in together, something is wrong or we need some tips and tricks from owners who may have some hands on knowledge of this or other suggestions where to find it. I am always a sponge for knowledge and can absolutely need the help.
Right now for the next two days, Jezebel is my responsibility and Eddie is Doug’s. Eddie eats n sleeps with Doug and I do the same for Jezebel. We might switch up tomorrow though. But each of us always has our dog. They are on leads but not being held by them. The leads being on is only to prevent any kind of charge attacks by either dog. Without us holding the leads they both have sat in a room together with stuff between them and even without and just in general been good late night dogs.
With Eddie right now we are just using distractions to get him used to being in the room with her. Toys or treats for ignoring her, relaxing, extra treats he got for actually ‘laying all the way down’ which for him means belly up. He would never belly up in a room with a dog he truly doesn’t trust or wants to kill, he would never get his mind off of them. *(we tried to foster a blue pit about a year ago and eddie just would NOT forget this dog was in a crate. he has tho given other female dogs the chance to be friends with him tho minimally because of my rural area)
Please help if you can I positively appreciate all comments and will give props 
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Long Version
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So Jezebelles story is.
She was rescued by a firefighter from an abandoned building near Peterstown West Virginia. So she’s farr from home right now. But she absolutely WAS worth going the 90 miles each way to get her and bring her home. She has been living, nearly constantly outside for the last year. When I mean living outside, I am pretty sure tonight was the first time she has seen a human bed, possibly even a dog one. Shes sooo sketchy and gun shy inside. She has never heard the noise being made inside a warm loving home. Speaking of loving, when we first picked her up, she was an absolute positive 100 % submitting dog, fell over backwards to me belly up in the snow. It is absolutely heartbreaking as it truly seems to me that she has never known the things that my other pets get everyday and it shows in the way she is being right now.
Even though she rode the whole way home, taking several stops, she has been panting since we got her. I realize it is a LOT of anxiety about her new situation but she has been panting for hours. I am just now prompting her to stop doing it so much and she is responding to that well so far. Her concentration not to seems to last longer each time. She is so effin lovable but you can tell s
She is so effin lovable but you can tell shes never been allowed to show her affection. She wants to be touching you as most pit bulls do but its nearly comical how she approaches it without a clue how to. Instead of sitting near you or next you you, she will sit with most of her upper body on you, head down in your lap. Or if you lay down with her, she might just put her butt up on your chest. She has NO clue how to snuggle. But she wants to learn more then any dog I’ve ever seen who was in this shape. I can’t though say that has been many.
I really don’t want to bash the guy who had her. I guess I can TRY To understand his situation that he rescued this dog from sure death and didn’t quite want to give her to a shelter who may have euthanized this dog, but just didn’t have room for her inside his home with his other 2 dogs 
Hard to comprehend for me though sorry. We had to give her 3 baths to even have a CHANCE to get the stench off of her after living outside with NO bathing in
We had to give her 3 baths to even have a CHANCE to get the stench off of her after living outside with NO bathing in all sorts of weather conditions, I’d give it a good guess this dog hasn’t had a bath since Mid Summer 2009. So he DID save her life I suppose and did give her shelter. Just not love or discipline or socialization
They are the only ones who would truly have a chance with him. I just don’t think he can ever let another male dog around. He has been extremely minimally socialized but not due to much more then the fact that I live in a fairly remote area and just don’t have friends nearby with dog friends for him to see often. And the next part is for sure my fault but I am working many different ways to solve this. Maybe anyone who has any ideas could PLEASE tell me their suggestions. REAL suggestions. I have googled and spent hours of time online reading about pit bulls, aggression issues, training and many hours of just detailed and general knowledge. And I do not need to be told to watch Cesar Milan to fix this particular issue. Eddie does LOVE a walk, but outside, specifically when on any leash or lead, he will pretty much charge another dog.
This is a trait that a lot of Pit bull or Staffie Mixes do display and anyone who has a dog or experience with one likes this knows that the lead makes it worse, but neither can I just let him go near her with US around. Because when me or my husband are around Eddie, he will absolutely charge any dog. Because we do live so remotely. Occasionally when there is very cold or inclement weather, we allow him a couple of hours to run the neighborhood. Although he is extremely safe (Minus he looks just like a red tail deer and even hops like one when hes ‘outside runnin’ :P) he does run into several neighborhood dogs. Even my closest neighbors have a couple of dogs. Like three mix breeds and even a smller remotely aggressive one that I have seen run Eddie up on my porch with his tail tucked between his legs. So its NOT a matter of him thinking or being an Alpha truly, as he isn’t when my husband and I are NOT around.
I realize this is a total problem with us. And we have watched and been practicing hours of training. I’d say I’ve watched about 50 episodes of Cesar Milan. He deals with a LOT of aggression and anxiety issues that I am seeing in these two dogs right now.
So anyone who cares to answer I would love to hear any suggestions you have for Eddie, Jezebel and even my cat which is fairly aggressive herself but she only flipped out on her when the cat snuck up on her and smelled her while she was closing her eyes for a couple of seconds earlier. She is JUST now actually falling asleep without panting for periods of 15 minutes or so now. But not nearly enough.
Thanks for the reply and in no way will she be left alone with him until the aggression issue is curbed. I do not fear that he will never calm down around her, he has already taken the high road for him several times and progress is being made. But I realize it could very well be a long process. He has already shown much more acceptance of her then he ever has or would a male dog, we knew that he would be able to handle her when we got her. I did thoroughly question the previous owner about any dog aggression issues and she has never really shown any.
Thanks for the tips and understanding Gin! It is stressful but there are a lot of positive signs from him that this is definitely a match that will work for him. I know it may take a bit to get rid of all aggression. In his favor Eddie is a boxer mix, and boxers have extremely high prey drives usually. Explains the charging about when he is outside bit too. But when he was 2 years old and is no different in his dog aggression right now, we taught him to be nice to a new cat and to never ever chase her, even when she was running laps by. It involved a long process for him, and a lot of screw ups but today he is much more respectful of the cat and would never harm her, at least not inside. I would never allow her outside with him running amok just because of the simple pray drive issue and that he can not be controlled outside. He can be trustfully left alone with her now infinitely as if he disrespects her she retreats where he cant get her and he does not try to.
I also have an previously abused female pit mix who had never been inside a house. Please continue to keep them separate, as he could kill her. She isn’t going to fully relax until she isn’t in danger of being attacked all the time, so you’ll have to treat his aggression immediately. Be aware according to his age and level of socialization he may not ever except her, but this is very rare with the right treatment. My experience with my dog’s aggression (I had 5 at once) was a very very long road to recovery, and there are still minor incidents here and there, so I hope you are up for it. Make sure the female has a quiet place she can call her own and feel safe. Make sure the male knows it’s not OK to show aggression toward her; spray him with a water bottle, tell him no, crate him or whatever works for him. It’s also important to give him positive feedback when he does well; tell him what a good boy he is when he shares a toy (but I wouldn’t try that for awhile) or is near her without growling. Always be sure he knows you are the alpha dog, not him and be consistant no matter what. Be very careful when food is involved. There are so many little things, I can’t type them all. Since this is the first day, it should get better, but if it doesn’t soon I would consult a behavior specialist (you can find one at pet stores like petsmart). If her anxiety doesn’t decrease the vet can give her something for it, but I’d use that as a last resort. I hope it levels out for you soon; I know the constant stress you are under now.
gin | Feb 05, 2010
If she seems sleepy and not herself then I would at least get her a check-up at the vets. Can you not just let her run around your room?